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		<title>By: Draft Dodger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Draft Dodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In California, instead of eating a turkey, they plant one. very eco friendly.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They celebrate Turkey Day on the Left Coast?  Who knew!!  I figured all the tree-hugging, hippy do-gooders would be liberating turkeys and bemoaning the cries of helplessness from cranberries!

JK, have a good trip, D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They celebrate Turkey Day on the Left Coast?  Who knew!!  I figured all the tree-hugging, hippy do-gooders would be liberating turkeys and bemoaning the cries of helplessness from cranberries!</p>
<p>JK, have a good trip, D.</p>
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		<title>By: Dario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts.  Deep thoughts.  Now, I'm off to Los Angeles for the week to celebrate Thanksgiving.  See you all in a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts.  Deep thoughts.  Now, I&#8217;m off to Los Angeles for the week to celebrate Thanksgiving.  See you all in a week.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 05:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every day I'm impressed by my fellow Avalanche fans.  We all have such high expectations of our team, that even though they've only lost two games in a row, that is unacceptable to us all.  We know they are a great team---they played like one of the best of all time at the end of last season and then added even more talent to the roster in the off-season.  And while they've started out well in general, the smallest lapse back into soft hockey and we're all outraged.

Be proud of yourselves, Avs fans.  Die-hard partisanship and high expectations are what sets us apart from fair-weather bandwagoneers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every day I&#8217;m impressed by my fellow Avalanche fans.  We all have such high expectations of our team, that even though they&#8217;ve only lost two games in a row, that is unacceptable to us all.  We know they are a great team&#8212;they played like one of the best of all time at the end of last season and then added even more talent to the roster in the off-season.  And while they&#8217;ve started out well in general, the smallest lapse back into soft hockey and we&#8217;re all outraged.</p>
<p>Be proud of yourselves, Avs fans.  Die-hard partisanship and high expectations are what sets us apart from fair-weather bandwagoneers.</p>
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		<title>By: Americanario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Americanario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 05:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were the F* has the power play disappeared to?  I though Smyth was a down low garbage man and yet even when he is in the crease no one will shoot the puck on net.  WAAAAAAYYYYYYy too much passing on the PP.  Get Smyth, Svatos, Wolski, and or Staz in the crease and start shooting the puck on net.
 Our Pk is atrocious as well (even though they finally managed a game where they didn't give up a ppg - Minny didn't need it this time).  We don't stand the other team up at the blue line, we let them skate in, take their shots and hope we can clear the puck, IF the goalie makes the save and the rebound doesn't end up on the opponent's stick first. When we play aggressive and attack the puck we usually get a kill, when we don't....well that is why they only have one game without giving up a ppg.

Defense continues to be an issue.  Remind me why we picked up Hannan? If Q is such a great defensive mind, maybe we should send out the search party because he definitely has lost it somewhere.

Goalies - neither goalie play bad in the two debacles...in fact the actually kept it from being worse that it was. But I wonder if the Goalie-go-round is starting to make the goalies dizzy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were the F* has the power play disappeared to?  I though Smyth was a down low garbage man and yet even when he is in the crease no one will shoot the puck on net.  WAAAAAAYYYYYYy too much passing on the PP.  Get Smyth, Svatos, Wolski, and or Staz in the crease and start shooting the puck on net.<br />
 Our Pk is atrocious as well (even though they finally managed a game where they didn&#8217;t give up a ppg - Minny didn&#8217;t need it this time).  We don&#8217;t stand the other team up at the blue line, we let them skate in, take their shots and hope we can clear the puck, IF the goalie makes the save and the rebound doesn&#8217;t end up on the opponent&#8217;s stick first. When we play aggressive and attack the puck we usually get a kill, when we don&#8217;t&#8230;.well that is why they only have one game without giving up a ppg.</p>
<p>Defense continues to be an issue.  Remind me why we picked up Hannan? If Q is such a great defensive mind, maybe we should send out the search party because he definitely has lost it somewhere.</p>
<p>Goalies - neither goalie play bad in the two debacles&#8230;in fact the actually kept it from being worse that it was. But I wonder if the Goalie-go-round is starting to make the goalies dizzy?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everything Dan said.

I'd also like to add that nobody seems able to TAKE a hit on this team without losing possession of the puck.  Little bumps and guys pull up and turn it over.  WTF?  Some of these forwards and D need to remember that they are elite players and stop playing like they're the latest call-ups.  I'm talking to YOU Liles, Stastny, Hannan, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything Dan said.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to add that nobody seems able to TAKE a hit on this team without losing possession of the puck.  Little bumps and guys pull up and turn it over.  WTF?  Some of these forwards and D need to remember that they are elite players and stop playing like they&#8217;re the latest call-ups.  I&#8217;m talking to YOU Liles, Stastny, Hannan, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Draft Dodger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Draft Dodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great comments Dan. I complete agree - I don't want this team to be the Broadstreet Bullies either, but come on. just a LITTLE hitting wouldn't hurt, would it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great comments Dan. I complete agree - I don&#8217;t want this team to be the Broadstreet Bullies either, but come on. just a LITTLE hitting wouldn&#8217;t hurt, would it?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Winkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Winkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't stand the fact that we got slapped hard and then we rolled over and took it like we're the new guys on the "Oz" cellblock. Wait...that doesn't make much sense, but I'm so disgusted with the way we lost, I can't think clearly. I wanted to say that we took it in the you-know-where, but that's probably a bit of an overreaction. Maybe.

But...come on. I don't need this team to be the Broad Street Bullies. I don't need them to fight as much as Anaheim. But what I do need is to see players actually finishing their checks. This is that same kind of soft pond-hockey that failed us for two-thirds of last season, before we finally woke up as a team and started being more physical. Kurt Sauer worked his way into the lineup last year because he was one of the few players willing to hit. It soon became contagious, and I honestly think it caused us to be a more aggressive and dangerous and better team.

This year? Not so much. Wojtek Wolski was our most physical player yesterday - it was him forechecking hard and actually finishing his check that led to the goal. I don't expect Sakic to be physical, but if Smyth doesn't mind hanging out in front of the goal all the time, then why isn't he more physical? What about Brunette? What about Guite and Wyatt Smith?

Defensively it's even worse, and it points to the biggest disappointment of the season, Scott Hannan. How, exactly, has his play been noticeably different than that of Jeff Finger this season? I don't know if he looked bigger or more intimidating in a Sharks sweater, but he sure looks small to me. He had two big turnovers yesterday that Budaj bailed him out on. I didn't see him hit anyone in our two terrible losses. He gets a solid C- through the first quarter of the season. He's not the only one to blame, but he's the one making the big bucks who was supposed to add toughness to the D and help the PK. That's a big failure on both counts.

I'm worried about Quenneville's attitude about being physical. In yesterday's post-game he listed the areas the Avs need to improve, and a reporter asked, "Does that mean being more physical, too?" to which Q said (paraphrasing) "Well, that's part of puck possession and getting to the loose pucks and blah blah blah." Come on...fucking admit that your team has been soft and needs to get tougher. I hate losing this way, watching a team that acts like it doesn't give a shit and can't be bothered with the physical side of hockey. That toughness, that edge, is what makes hockey so exciting, and I have no doubt it helped us make that run last season. It's disgusting to see that this team didn't learn its lesson last year and is falling back to the same mediocre and unappealing type of hockey.

For what it's worth, Sandy Clough says he thinks it's a lock that Scott Parker will dress against Calgary. But that's not even the point, because he won't be able to make an impact in his 2 minutes of ice time trying to chase guys he can't catch. The point is that the team needs to get tougher overall, from top to bottom. If we don't, we'll roll along and get a few wins here and there against the Edmontons and Phoenixs of the world, and we'll beat some pretty good teams on our ice...but we won't ever make the jump to upper tier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand the fact that we got slapped hard and then we rolled over and took it like we&#8217;re the new guys on the &#8220;Oz&#8221; cellblock. Wait&#8230;that doesn&#8217;t make much sense, but I&#8217;m so disgusted with the way we lost, I can&#8217;t think clearly. I wanted to say that we took it in the you-know-where, but that&#8217;s probably a bit of an overreaction. Maybe.</p>
<p>But&#8230;come on. I don&#8217;t need this team to be the Broad Street Bullies. I don&#8217;t need them to fight as much as Anaheim. But what I do need is to see players actually finishing their checks. This is that same kind of soft pond-hockey that failed us for two-thirds of last season, before we finally woke up as a team and started being more physical. Kurt Sauer worked his way into the lineup last year because he was one of the few players willing to hit. It soon became contagious, and I honestly think it caused us to be a more aggressive and dangerous and better team.</p>
<p>This year? Not so much. Wojtek Wolski was our most physical player yesterday - it was him forechecking hard and actually finishing his check that led to the goal. I don&#8217;t expect Sakic to be physical, but if Smyth doesn&#8217;t mind hanging out in front of the goal all the time, then why isn&#8217;t he more physical? What about Brunette? What about Guite and Wyatt Smith?</p>
<p>Defensively it&#8217;s even worse, and it points to the biggest disappointment of the season, Scott Hannan. How, exactly, has his play been noticeably different than that of Jeff Finger this season? I don&#8217;t know if he looked bigger or more intimidating in a Sharks sweater, but he sure looks small to me. He had two big turnovers yesterday that Budaj bailed him out on. I didn&#8217;t see him hit anyone in our two terrible losses. He gets a solid C- through the first quarter of the season. He&#8217;s not the only one to blame, but he&#8217;s the one making the big bucks who was supposed to add toughness to the D and help the PK. That&#8217;s a big failure on both counts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m worried about Quenneville&#8217;s attitude about being physical. In yesterday&#8217;s post-game he listed the areas the Avs need to improve, and a reporter asked, &#8220;Does that mean being more physical, too?&#8221; to which Q said (paraphrasing) &#8220;Well, that&#8217;s part of puck possession and getting to the loose pucks and blah blah blah.&#8221; Come on&#8230;fucking admit that your team has been soft and needs to get tougher. I hate losing this way, watching a team that acts like it doesn&#8217;t give a shit and can&#8217;t be bothered with the physical side of hockey. That toughness, that edge, is what makes hockey so exciting, and I have no doubt it helped us make that run last season. It&#8217;s disgusting to see that this team didn&#8217;t learn its lesson last year and is falling back to the same mediocre and unappealing type of hockey.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, Sandy Clough says he thinks it&#8217;s a lock that Scott Parker will dress against Calgary. But that&#8217;s not even the point, because he won&#8217;t be able to make an impact in his 2 minutes of ice time trying to chase guys he can&#8217;t catch. The point is that the team needs to get tougher overall, from top to bottom. If we don&#8217;t, we&#8217;ll roll along and get a few wins here and there against the Edmontons and Phoenixs of the world, and we&#8217;ll beat some pretty good teams on our ice&#8230;but we won&#8217;t ever make the jump to upper tier.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Dump And Don't Chase"

That more or less sums it up perfectly.  And that's sad.</description>
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<p>That more or less sums it up perfectly.  And that&#8217;s sad.</p>
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