I think most readers are familiar enough with our goaltending saga that I don’t need to spend much time rehashing the sad history to date. Suffice to say that, after screwing with the heads of both goalies this season, Joel Quenneville seems to have finally settled on Jose Theodore as our starter. For two weeks, it seemed like a solid decision, as Theo rattled off his best sustained performance as an Avalanche. But, he’s shown signs of cooling off lately and the question needs to be asked: should he still be our number 1?
Through a fortuitous bit of symmetry, both Peter Budaj and Jose Theodore have started exactly the same number of games this year (25) and each have one relief appearance. Statistically, there isn’t any better time to compare the two. Let’s do that, shall we?
There’s your goalie stats through the first 50 games, unofficial but accurate to the best of my knowledge (sorry about the width - I didn’t originally set this up to be a web file). It amazes me how similar their core numbers are. There’s just a one-goal difference in goals allowed. Their save percentages are nearly identical as well. Budaj does hold an advantage in the win-loss column, but I think you attribute any difference to the fact that he had more starts when the team was playing better. For all intents and purposes, the core numbers for these goalies are identical.
Once you look into the secondary numbers, though, you start to see some differences develop. Budaj is about a half a goal per game better at even strength (2.13 vs 2.64), a key number considering how much we rely on our even strength scoring. Unfortunately, he is much, much worse when opponents are on the powerplay (9.60 gaa vs 4.35 for Theo). That’s a huge disparity, and a big change from last season (when Budaj had a 6.75 in those situations, with Theo sporting an 8.05). Despite relatively equal ice time, Budaj has given up 67% of the PP goals this year. Ouch.
One other key area where Budaj holds an advantage is 1st period save percentage (.912 vs .881). I hashed this out recently at MHH, but it needs to be pointed out again that the Avalanche are 18-2-2 when they score first, and 8-18-2 when they do not. You saw last night how things normally work out for us when we’re trying to come from behind: the wheels turn like crazy, but we don’t go anywhere. Budaj’s been solid in the first all year, while Theo has struggled (heck, even in this recent hot streak, his first period save percentage is a not-earth-shattering .897).
This solid stretch of play by Theodore is great, but it’s worth noting that it’s taken a stretch like this to bring his numbers to the level of Budaj. In other words, it’s great, but shouldn’t have happened to begin with. And, while he’s playing his best hockey as an Avalanche, his numbers during this recent period are 5-4-1, 1.97 GAA with a 930 save percentage. Certainly nothing “wrong” about that, but you can’t necessarily say that it is head and shoulders over the numbers Budaj put up when he played 9 of 10 games leading up to being benched by Quenneville (5-2-2, 2.09, .924).
Look, Theodore has been good. He won a couple of games for us that we had no business winning. But, the fact remains that he’s really just elevated his game to NHL-caliber-goalie-level after years of severely substandard play. Statistically, you can’t really argue that he’s been any better than Budaj, either over the course of the season or through the most recent 20-game stretch. If you factor in that Budaj is 6-years younger than Theodore and is under contract next season, I don’t really see any compelling reason to have Theodore starting…save one: if the Avalanche are thinking of trading Theodore, this recent showcase will have driven his trade value up, well, from null to something. But I don’t think there’s any chance in hell of us trading Theodore (heck, I’m frightened there might even be thoughts of re-signing him).
We have a tough road ahead of us if we’re going to make the playoffs this year. We made need to put in a run like we did after the trade deadline last spring. You remember that one, right? It was the one backstopped by Peter Budaj.
I’m also attaching the game logs for each goalie, just because I have them handy.






T-Minus 10 minutes till Thomas’ crazy rant.
It’s rather convenient for you to compare their season-long numbers, as JoeTed’s numbers from earlier this year were not good.
There really is no way to adequately compare the two because Budaj has never really been the starter for an extended stretch on this current team. And when he was the default #1, the team had better players to put out there.
You cannot ignore the fact that JoeTed has been playing very very well with two, three and four of his team’s best players out. That skews the numbers, without question.
He’s the #1 now because he has earned it. And it will take more than one bad game (the Nashville game is JoeTed’s only weak game in recent memory) to change that.
Every goalie has bad games from time to time.
Every goalie has bad games from time to time.
Every goalie has bad games from time to time.
Patrick Roy had bad games from time to time.
But continue your ignorant bash-fest.
It’s rather convenient for you to compare their season-long numbers, as JoeTed’s numbers from earlier this year were not good.
yes, that’s the first half of my point. The second half of the point is that his numbers from the last 10 games aren’t all that earth-shattering either, especially when compared to Budaj’s.
thanks for playing along, though.
Wow, Selanne, did you call it or what?
And I’m now totally convinced that Thomas is one of those “love it or leave it” Republicans that have been accusing every sane person of treason over the past seven years or so.
How “convenient” to compare a meaningful sample set.
How “convenient” to compare numbers during a period where Theodore had terrible stats.
How “convenient” to do it when both goaltenders have started equal amounts of games.
Geez, way to cherry pick your numbers DD
“(heck, I’m frightened there might even be thoughts of re-signing him).”
Damn, maybe that’s why I haven’t been sleeping well lately.
I wonder….We all know how Theo has played recently, I only wish we could see Budaj with this current team. The Defense has been much better in the last 10 games than they were earlier in the year. Has Theo benefited from the improved defense to improve his numbers. Would Budaj’s numbers have improved as much if he was given an equal share during the stretch? Unfortunately we will probably never know.
People want to complain that the team was much different earlier in the season and so comparing the two time frames is unfair. Well when the team was more offensive minded Theo was worse than Budaj. I would think that Budaj would have also benefited from having an improved defensive unit in front of him.
Really I don’t care who is better, I just want this team to start finding a way to win these games.
Every bad goalie has good games from time to time. (Conklin)
Every Bad goalie has good games from time to time. (Lalime)
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
When did we adore him?
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