Comments on: Notes: Game 23, Oilers at Avalanche http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche Colorado Avalanche recaps, stats and analysis Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:35:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: jibblescribbits http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2205 jibblescribbits Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:06:58 +0000 http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2205 <blockquote>Another reason I put the Svats machine (happy?)... </blockquote> Extremely.

Another reason I put the Svats machine (happy?)…

Extremely.

]]> By: Dario http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2181 Dario Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:33:20 +0000 http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2181 Teh Doc, That sounds good to me, I think Richardson is better on faceoffs for the 3rd line and he can be a playmaker for Svatos and Smyth. His defense is better than Arnasons etc... I think Arny would waste away on the fourth line more than usual. When Lappy gets back he's the odd man out on that line but I'm 90% positive Q would sit McCormick. Which is a shame because Cody brings something intangible to the club out there. Last night, Granato clearly gave McCormick the cease and desist on dropping the gloves and he did so. There was no reason to give Edmonton any life at all with a fight. However, guys were still trying to place some hard checks and Edmonton was getting out of position for a little while there. Lappy, McCormick and Guite is a hard hitting line with good to great defense, good to mediocre skating and great to fantastic energy. I'd just love to see that line play a few shifts. Another reason I put the Svats machine (happy?) over Arny is that Svatos does have some crunch time mojo and offers something on the power play. He's someone I'd want on the ice for shootouts too. Teh Doc,

That sounds good to me, I think Richardson is better on faceoffs for the 3rd line and he can be a playmaker for Svatos and Smyth. His defense is better than Arnasons etc… I think Arny would waste away on the fourth line more than usual. When Lappy gets back he’s the odd man out on that line but I’m 90% positive Q would sit McCormick. Which is a shame because Cody brings something intangible to the club out there.

Last night, Granato clearly gave McCormick the cease and desist on dropping the gloves and he did so. There was no reason to give Edmonton any life at all with a fight. However, guys were still trying to place some hard checks and Edmonton was getting out of position for a little while there. Lappy, McCormick and Guite is a hard hitting line with good to great defense, good to mediocre skating and great to fantastic energy. I’d just love to see that line play a few shifts.

Another reason I put the Svats machine (happy?) over Arny is that Svatos does have some crunch time mojo and offers something on the power play. He’s someone I’d want on the ice for shootouts too.

]]> By: Draft Dodger http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2178 Draft Dodger Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:45:36 +0000 http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2178 <i>The gorilla in the room are Skrastins and apparently, Leopold again some time soon. Who’s the odd man out there?</i> man, if it's the Leopold from earlier this season, I don't want to see him on the ice at all. That <em>can't</em> be how he really plays, can it? The gorilla in the room are Skrastins and apparently, Leopold again some time soon. Who’s the odd man out there?

man, if it’s the Leopold from earlier this season, I don’t want to see him on the ice at all. That can’t be how he really plays, can it?

]]> By: NHL Wrap: Blues top Buffalo and more | SportFiends.com http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2177 NHL Wrap: Blues top Buffalo and more | SportFiends.com Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:38:55 +0000 http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2177 [...] Milan Hejduk and Joe Sakic each had a goal and two assists to help the Colorado Avalanche beat the Edmonton Oilers 4-2. [...] [...] Milan Hejduk and Joe Sakic each had a goal and two assists to help the Colorado Avalanche beat the Edmonton Oilers 4-2. [...]

]]> By: jibblescribbits http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2176 jibblescribbits Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:01:17 +0000 http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2176 <blockquote>Wolski / Sakic / Bruno (can we just never break up this line again?) Hlinka / Stastny / Hejduk (clear chemistry here. let it gel, please Q!) Smyth / Richardson / Svatos (speed, scoring, toughness. could work?) Arnason / Guite / McCormick (will Arny try harder w/other hard workers?)</blockquote> Echo? :) /DrFrankensteinvoice Svats Machine, Svats MA-CHINE

Wolski / Sakic / Bruno (can we just never break up this line again?)
Hlinka / Stastny / Hejduk (clear chemistry here. let it gel, please Q!)
Smyth / Richardson / Svatos (speed, scoring, toughness. could work?)
Arnason / Guite / McCormick (will Arny try harder w/other hard workers?)

Echo? :)

/DrFrankensteinvoice

Svats Machine, Svats MA-CHINE

]]> By: thedoctor http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2175 thedoctor Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:54:45 +0000 http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2175 i would think Cumiskey goes down again when Leopold is back at full strength. He's still young, and until Liles or Sauer (god forbid we don't re-sign him) goes away, he's probably better off developing in LE. as for forwards, what about... Wolski / Sakic / Bruno (can we just never break up this line again?) Hlinka / Stastny / Hejduk (clear chemistry here. let it gel, please Q!) Smyth / Richardson / Svatos (speed, scoring, toughness. could work?) Arnason / Guite / McCormick (will Arny try harder w/other hard workers?) my preferred move would be Svatos and Arnason off the team completely, but whatever. i would think Cumiskey goes down again when Leopold is back at full strength. He’s still young, and until Liles or Sauer (god forbid we don’t re-sign him) goes away, he’s probably better off developing in LE.

as for forwards, what about…

Wolski / Sakic / Bruno (can we just never break up this line again?)
Hlinka / Stastny / Hejduk (clear chemistry here. let it gel, please Q!)
Smyth / Richardson / Svatos (speed, scoring, toughness. could work?)
Arnason / Guite / McCormick (will Arny try harder w/other hard workers?)

my preferred move would be Svatos and Arnason off the team completely, but whatever.

]]> By: Dario http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2173 Dario Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:39:17 +0000 http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2173 I was thinking Svatos as the healthy skratch but then I figured that Svatos is even more consistant than Arnason and Richardson plays the center position well and logically would make Arny the odd man out. The gorilla in the room are Skrastins and apparently, Leopold again some time soon. Who's the odd man out there? I was thinking Svatos as the healthy skratch but then I figured that Svatos is even more consistant than Arnason and Richardson plays the center position well and logically would make Arny the odd man out.

The gorilla in the room are Skrastins and apparently, Leopold again some time soon. Who’s the odd man out there?

]]> By: Draft Dodger http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2171 Draft Dodger Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:32:33 +0000 http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2171 Arnason's PP numbers since he's joined the Avs have been absolutely brutal. I don't really get that one either. Arnason’s PP numbers since he’s joined the Avs have been absolutely brutal. I don’t really get that one either.

]]> By: jibblescribbits http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2170 jibblescribbits Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:31:12 +0000 http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2170 I thought the Svats machine (damnit That's his nickname people start using it, I'm trying to get it to catch on :) ) clicked really well with Stastny and Hejduk. Smyth doesn't click with that line at all. But yeah Smyth-Arny-Svats Machine line just doesn't work. Smyth seems to be the odd man out because Sakic-Bruno-Wolski clicks and so does the Czech line. (Stast, Hejduk-Hlinka) That third line is weird though. Maybe Smyth-Richardson-Svats would be okay, but you really want Arnason paired with Guite/Smith and McCormik/Lappy? Might as well healthy scratch Arny then. If Forsberg gets healthy and we can lure him back we could have a 3rd line of Smyth-Forsberg-Svats Machine and a 4th line of Lappy-Guite-Richardson. Now that would be a special lineup I thought the Svats machine (damnit That’s his nickname people start using it, I’m trying to get it to catch on :) ) clicked really well with Stastny and Hejduk. Smyth doesn’t click with that line at all.

But yeah Smyth-Arny-Svats Machine line just doesn’t work. Smyth seems to be the odd man out because Sakic-Bruno-Wolski clicks and so does the Czech line. (Stast, Hejduk-Hlinka)

That third line is weird though. Maybe Smyth-Richardson-Svats would be okay, but you really want Arnason paired with Guite/Smith and McCormik/Lappy? Might as well healthy scratch Arny then.

If Forsberg gets healthy and we can lure him back we could have a 3rd line of Smyth-Forsberg-Svats Machine and a 4th line of Lappy-Guite-Richardson. Now that would be a special lineup

]]> By: thedoctor http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2169 thedoctor Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:29:08 +0000 http://inthecheapseats.com/avs-game-notes/11-29-2007/notes-game-23-oilers-at-avalanche#comment-2169 "I’ve always liked Svatos…but, honestly, I see him more and more as the weak link on every line he plays with. I just don’t think he’s a good fit for any line combo on this team…" agreed. yes he puts the puck in the net, but his line mates hardly ever do. I am firmly in the "trade him while he still has value" camp. If he can be packaged with Arnason, so much the better! :) speaking of, i still don't understand why Arnason is on the PP and not Hlinka. one can pass, one can't. how hard is this?! “I’ve always liked Svatos…but, honestly, I see him more and more as the weak link on every line he plays with. I just don’t think he’s a good fit for any line combo on this team…”

agreed. yes he puts the puck in the net, but his line mates hardly ever do. I am firmly in the “trade him while he still has value” camp. If he can be packaged with Arnason, so much the better! :)

speaking of, i still don’t understand why Arnason is on the PP and not Hlinka. one can pass, one can’t. how hard is this?!

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